Windows Vista will possibly be the most under appreciated Microsoft product since…well Microsoft BOB
Here’s why.
- Windows XP works…and there’s nothing that’s going to break it since Intel doesn’t control the CPU market anymore and device driver writers would probably be just as happy to create drivers for XP rather than rewrite all their drivers for Vista
- Vista is all visual. Unlike XP which actually stabilized Microsoft’s consumer offerings which were suffering ever since Win 3.1. XP is basically stable in all versions and is fast on all recent hardware.
- Vista will be unstable. In addition to creating havoc for device makers and causing subtle incompatibility problems (as every release of Windows ever has). Users will have no patience for a product inferior to XP even if Vista catches up later.
- Vista is very, very expensive. Vista is the most expensive, and least necessary OS upgrade in Microsoft’s history.
- Vista can’t be downloaded. Microsoft’s outdated distribution/licensing scheme is about as hip as floppy disk protection. The fact that you cannot download Vista instead of buying a CD is really pathetic. Corporations may get the right to do this but not us.
- Windows Genuine DIS-advantage. MS is now not only requiring WGA validation for Windows but for other products. MS is showing that they really know how to piss people off for no overall gain to their company. Significantly fewer people will want to pirate windows. People generally like to copy something THEY LIKE.
- Security Monitoring. To the average user MS is saying, hey I guess you’ll stop complaining about MS security since we nagged you so much with our tools that you shut them off…so now we aren’t liable! MS is making sure that their security tools are in the face of the user at all times and encouraging the user to shut them off. Been using windows for 12 years. Still never had a virus myself. Whatever.
- 64 bit computing is a joke. Not only will no end user care but even most companies which require a lot of CPU horsepower to run their businesses care about 64 bit. Its just another even techie number thrown at the market for the sake of doing it.
- Vista will be slower than XP. nuff said.
- Vista doesn’t look very good. MS Has always done a hack job of copying Apple. But this time to my eyes it looks like a worse derivative than usual.
- MS Office is dead. nuff said (I typed this on Word 97 and pasted it in.)
- Windows Live, the worst marketing vehicle since .NET will embarrass Microsoft in the industry. MS will fail at taking its business online when it meets the competition. Open Doc formats will rule. MS cant survive based on ad revenue or subscriptions.
- Linux, nuff said.
- China, nuff said.
- Google, nuff said.
- The browser as a platform (mozilla) nuff said.
- Online file storage, nuff said.
Nuff said. There you have it. Vista cant win, wont be purchased in large numbers and will spell the end of MS dominance in operating systems. Actually, by making XP stable and raising prices, they built their own coffin with a nice green field wallpaper.
As much as MS did for the industry early on by crushing its competitors so we could all use junk, MS is going to have to sell a lot of XBoxes and Zunes to make up for Vista when its all over. I hope they aren’t waiting for Google to buy them.
October 22, 2006 at 3:36 am
Maybe you should make 17 reasons why nobody will read your blog. Let me start you off:
You’re bad at writing
Your rants are retarded
Nobody cares what you think
October 22, 2006 at 6:36 am
more than half of your ‘reasons’ are opinions…
October 22, 2006 at 7:58 pm
“64 bit computing is a joke. Not only will no end user care but even most companies which require a lot of CPU horsepower to run their businesses care about 64 bit. Its just another even techie number thrown at the market for the sake of doing it.”
Yup, you do seem to suck at writing.
October 22, 2006 at 8:29 pm
One thing you miss is the fact that MS will not license WinXP with new PC’s when vista is out. this will mean ppl with new PC’s will get vista like or not. and in case you did not know, it is paid for already.
October 22, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Why do you keep writing after the 5th or 6th time you said “nuff said” ??
I agree with you though, you’ve said enough already
October 22, 2006 at 10:01 pm
they will need to up the price on 360 tho, because the price has been so subsidized that with each console sold microsoft actually loses money.
October 22, 2006 at 11:10 pm
I agree with you! I especially agree with what you said about the scurity tools suite. I sooo despise M$!!! I really enjoyed this blog!!!!
October 22, 2006 at 11:39 pm
Why don’t you learn how to spell “no one”…dumbass…
October 22, 2006 at 11:53 pm
Well, I personally think google is smart enough to NOT buy them, and if ever to come out with an OS would be one all its own.
October 23, 2006 at 12:40 am
And by no one, you mean the hunderd million people that will buy it in the first year or did you mean you and your friend?
October 23, 2006 at 1:15 am
hey, I’ll get it. Maybe not straight away.
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October 23, 2006 at 1:30 am
Buying a new PC and getting Vista, does not mean you want Vista. It means you want a low cost PC and didnt want that Mac or you dont know how to build your own computer.
If there were no DVD players and no TIVOS and no cable and no YouTube, what would you be doing right now? Youd probably be watching a terrible movie that you would never watch in the first place… in a movie theater that charged you 10 bucks for a box of awful popcorn and leaving the theater saying “oh it wasnt all that bad”, then you would go home and watch Leno.
Well, thats the difference choice makes.
So a monopolist figured out how to vertically distribute its software in such a way that you have little choice as an end user.
Techies can dig out an old computer and put linux on it. But the end user is trapped.
And this is how monopolies work fundamentally.
October 23, 2006 at 1:52 am
“Windows XP works…and there’s nothing that’s going to break it since Intel doesn’t control the CPU market anymore and device driver writers would probably be just as happy to create drivers for XP rather than rewrite all their drivers for Vista”
Windows XP works better than Windows ME or 98, but it doesn’t work as well as it could. Intel and the CPU market really don’t have anything to do with this. BTW, Intel does still dominate the CPU market. By the way again, device manufacturers are the one’s that create the drivers for devices, and unless you are one, you wouldn’t know what they would rather do.
“Vista is all visual. Unlike XP which actually stabilized Microsoft’s consumer offerings which were suffering ever since Win 3.1. XP is basically stable in all versions and is fast on all recent hardware.”
Actually, Vista isn’t any more “visual” than any other non-command line OS. I don’t know who drugged your coffee, but Microsoft hasn’t had a hiccup in it’s consumer offerings as far as revenue is concerned since 3.1. XP, again isn’t as stable as it could be…and 98 is faster on all recent hardware…so is Linux.
“Vista will be unstable. In addition to creating havoc for device makers and causing subtle incompatibility problems (as every release of Windows ever has). Users will have no patience for a product inferior to XP even if Vista catches up later.”
Vista is already more stable than XP is. It works better, has more tools, allows more control, looks better, and is more secure than XP already.
“Vista is very, very expensive. Vista is the most expensive, and least necessary OS upgrade in Microsoft’s history.”
You must be dumb in addition to poor. Vista is slightly more than XP, but the upgrade is still the same (assuming you actually upgrade instead of getting a new computer) $99 it has been since 95 dropped.
“Vista can’t be downloaded. Microsoft’s outdated distribution/licensing scheme is about as hip as floppy disk protection. The fact that you cannot download Vista instead of buying a CD is really pathetic. Corporations may get the right to do this but not us.”
Neither can Windows XP, or Mac OS X, or even some versions of Linux. You would just call them and whine that you can’t afford a DVD to burn the OS onto anyways.
“Windows Genuine DIS-advantage. MS is now not only requiring WGA validation for Windows but for other products. MS is showing that they really know how to piss people off for no overall gain to their company. Significantly fewer people will want to pirate windows. People generally like to copy something THEY LIKE.”
Um, sorry you’re broke and can’t afford software. Doesn’t your library have computers you can use?
“Security Monitoring. To the average user MS is saying, hey I guess you’ll stop complaining about MS security since we nagged you so much with our tools that you shut them off…so now we aren’t liable! MS is making sure that their security tools are in the face of the user at all times and encouraging the user to shut them off. Been using windows for 12 years. Still never had a virus myself. Whatever.”
You mean you didn’t get a copy of RC1 or RC2? The security is essentially the same as OS X in that it requests permission from the user to perform administrative tasks. This will stop viruses if it isn’t exploited somehow. And the nagging really isn’t all that bad…it’s one click.
“64 bit computing is a joke. Not only will no end user care but even most companies which require a lot of CPU horsepower to run their businesses care about 64 bit. Its just another even techie number thrown at the market for the sake of doing it.”
Do you not understand it? You are a moron, sorry, but you are. I don’t have a 64-bit processor since they don’t have any with dual-cores yet, and I’m not stuck to them like glue, but it’s beneficial technology. It increases the processing power of the CPU considerably…in fact, it doubles it.
“Vista will be slower than XP.”
But that’s why we’ve got Intel to keep spitting out faster CPUs so it’ll still work fine. The speed difference really isn’t that apparent…
“Vista doesn’t look very good. MS Has always done a hack job of copying Apple. But this time to my eyes it looks like a worse derivative than usual.”
Neither does XP or Linux.
“MS Office is dead. nuff said (I typed this on Word 97 and pasted it in.)”
I think the word you are looking for is “hot.” It’s faster than Open Office and it’s more stable than Corel WordPerfect. Any other alternatives you have to it that are comparable at all?
Seriously, quit whining. You little kids that are mad because Microsoft is better than you get irritating.
October 23, 2006 at 8:00 am
Wow! thats a pretty powerful opinion.
SO point by point HERE WE GOooooooo.
XP is faster and more stable than any previous Windows OS.
Vista will not cost 99 to upgrade unless you are on XP home and the upgrade will likely not work.
Device manufacturers have no interest in MS success at this point. In fact MS has tried to blame them for their failed driver models for years and thats why they don’t follow the MS device driver standard AT ALL.
Ever go through the manual which said “When Windows says “I Found a new device!” and the manual says NO NO NO.
Yeah thats driver manufacturers playing to MS. NOT
Thanks for calling me broke thanks for calling me stupid
Vista is slower than XP in every benchmark
There are something like 18 online competitors to MS Office which has not a singular feature upgrade in 20 years worth talking about.
Can you, in your fervor for 64 bit?, explain to the masses how the 64 bit registers can contain more data however since the average program never has a need for such large values, that storing more than one value in those registers to “maximize efficiency” requires a HUGELY expensive bit-shift to get data INTO or OUT OF those registers and that that bit shift done on a regular basis is the slowest thing your computer could ever do besides go to disk?
Also if the 64 bit registers arent shared (ie no bit shift) that they are no more useful than 32 bit registers for 99 percent of apps?
Vista cant be downloaded, sorry thats LAME.
Retail Value Vista Premium Plus MS Office will cost 1000 dollars
Vista looks like crap
Vista is unstable
THanks for shopping with us today.
October 23, 2006 at 9:56 am
“more than half of your ‘reasons’ are opinions…”
hehe Vista itself…is an opinion
October 23, 2006 at 2:34 pm
WOW… Your really are a Anti Microsoft… The trendyness of that went out a long time ago… Even with all your whinging about it, I bet you that you’ll be running Vista within 12-18 months. But at least your getting what you want. Attention you so desperately crave…
October 23, 2006 at 3:39 pm
Hell, I’m a veteran IT Professional that refuses to upgrade to Windows XP on my computers that didn’t come with it. Hell, I built my main workstations from the ground up. Windows 2000 works fine. I’ve also been known to run Linux at times but, honestly, after you do lots of field work, you hardly want to tinker at home. I guess I’m past that curious stage. I’m not the doctor that enjoys operating himself anymore… =oP
BTW, I agree that 64-bit is one of the many things thrown on the spec sheet to justify price points. This is what I call “creating the need”. Early adopters will jump on it for the cool factor, if nothing else, and they’ll say is great because no one likes to admit they made a bad choice. Their friends will eventually jump on the bandwagon until the word is spread out virally.
I think what it comes down to is that Microsoft is a Macrocosm of what is wrong with IT as a whole. Anyone who has worked closely with IT in some form knows of the techies that like cool things. They’re either hardcore Linux or Mac fans, or they just like to have all the latest toys. Give them ownership of a project and they do not look at what is cost-effective and fits the client needs; instead, they push what they think is cool or hot at the moment. It’s a one-size-fits-all approach to things.
Simple example: Macs are NOT for everyone. Apple tends to appeal to people that do not care about having real low-level access to their computer, folks that are more about productivity, getting things done, and not having to go through a little extra effort. Apple’s version of user-friendly is “we know what you want and we’ll do it for you automatically”. The entire OS has been built on this premise and it works for them but not everyone wants a simplistic toy; some people want Legos so they can build what they want, even if the design is not perfect. Legos are not great out-of-the-box without a vision and some sort of competence, patience, and creative streak soooo, yeah, Windows is the same way.
Apple also tells people that this is THE computer to use if you do graphic design, music production, or are an educater. I know plenty of Linux and Windows users that didn’t buy into the hype and would beg to differ. In the end, it’s not about better, it’s about different and what the marketplace has been primed to receive. Apple sells simplicity and effectiveness in “niche” applications. Microsoft doesn’t really have a marketing position. They don’t even really have marketing packaging for Windows. It’s simply: it’s everywhere, it’s supported, you better use it, OR ELSE.
What the world needs to realize is that third-party support starts with the users. Anything that is widely-adopted without equivocation or hesitation ends up in some sort of monopoly. Apple did it with iPods when they started to get uneducated customers that called the product category “iPod” rather than “MP3 player”, in much the same manner that many folks call diapers “pampers”. We as the consumer still have control over what direction things go in.
For this very reason, there are people that are still using Windows 95 OSR, Windows 2000, and even earlier versions of Mac OS (pre version 8 and 9, of course): it fits their need and they have no reason to upgrade. As soon as people see this and start boycotting these flavor-of-the-moment technologies, we’ll see some more genuine effort from these big brands, efforts to retain and satisfy customers. I think Microsoft really needs to re-evaluate their development cycle. Product life cycle management seems to lack there. I don’t think anyone wants to invest in a product that has an expected life of 2-3 years and that’s exactly what Microsoft has conditioned us to feel.
If they are smart, they’ll delay this Vista crap and try to reinvent their vision here. I think there’s something to be said for backward compatability, standardization, and pricing to go; things that are all lacking right now in the M$ approach. Am I disgruntled? Hardly. I just find it all entertaining. Look at how WINS disappeared after M$ swore it was going to become a great alternative to DNS. I know plenty of indie devs that put more thought behind projects than these folks do. I swear it must be amateur night… =oX
BTW, Bullard, of course it is all an opinion. Consumer decisions are always based on opinions and impressions, hardly ever logic. In fact, it’s been proven that most purchases are made on the “good enough” principle. If people do not have a recent horrible experience with a brand and they recall a great first impression, they’re going to go with that brand, even if there was some ugliness somewhere in the midst of that. Human nature is a fun thing, I say! =oD
Preferences are as subjective as you can get. It’s like Miracle Whip’s positioning right now – “make a better turkey sandwich”! Does it really make a turkey sandwich taste that much better? Depends on who you ask. I mean, I’m sure if I made a pretty little box that glows in the dark and vibrates randomly, there are some people that will buy it and love it, even if it is useless; hell, tons of cell phone companies do it!
But I digress… Good discussion here!
October 23, 2006 at 6:01 pm
You’re a moron and a disgrace to people of intelligence.
“64 bit computing is a joke. Not only will no end user care but even most companies which require a lot of CPU horsepower to run their businesses care about 64 bit. Its just another even techie number thrown at the market for the sake of doing it. “
October 23, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Actually you’re a disgrace to idiots also.
October 23, 2006 at 8:16 pm
regardless of whether anyone buys it now or not, it will be bundled into every dell, hp, gateway, compaq, etc. from here on out. x years later m$ will come out with another OS that everyone will “buy” because they buy it bundled with their cheap pc. [see list above] just because the tech crowd you hang out with that is hooked on linux won’t buy it, millions of others will because they aren’t going to build their own pc because they don’t know how first of all and they wouldn’t even if they could.
tons of people are going to be running vista in the not-so-distant future. just bc they don’t go “buy it from a store and install it themselves” doesn’t mean no one will buy it. like stated beforehand, it’s already bought and paid for.
October 23, 2006 at 10:36 pm
win super site has a great article on vista and it licencing – not a pro vista point.
I think not being able to transfer it to more than one pc is not good – not everyone want to get a new pc every year or so.
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October 24, 2006 at 5:56 am
u really suck a lot……..
October 25, 2006 at 3:14 am
Who? me?
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November 16, 2006 at 11:34 pm
Erichenley brings up a good point. This is why I rather keep building my PC piece-by-piece that by some really cheap computer and get crap bundled on it that I don’t really want or need. I love Linux and the many open source/public license projects out there BUT people have to understand that, no matter how cool and geeky it may be to use these solutions, it doesn’t mean that the typical user, those not so technically inclined, should use them.
It can be said that the convenience and accessibility of technology far outweighs the importance of reliability and overall performance. People don’t really care about what works better or else the market shares would be very different right now. Sometimes, it’s all about minimizing risk rather than optimizing your experience; that is, if it’s there and the bugs are at least familiar, it’s better than trying something different, something with new bugs and issues to deal with.
Any folks out there that buy a PC or laptop now pretty much have paid for Vista, even if it’s not installed on there. The moment a PC is certified as “Vista ready”, it’s basically giving M$ some extra cash in their pocket. I hate to say it but Erich is right: unless the whole world starts to beige box it, the monopolization of IT will only continue to grow.
On the flip side, if everyone adopted Linux, I have a feeling we’d start to see some “corporatization” of systems to make it profitable for developers dedicating their time to it. It’d be mainstream and the cool factor would then wear out so people would then start to find things wrong with it. Wide adoption also means that hackers can easily footprint systems so this crap about Mac OS being virus-free and Linux being invincible is crap. Anything engineered can be reverse-engineered. Security is only a method for delaying or discouraging the casual hacker or script kiddy.
In short, there are always going to be problems no matter how things churn out. The only strong argument here is that Microsoft shows no sort of product loyalty and longevity by constantly changing things up. On that end, Linux without a doubt destroys Windows and Mac OS hands-down. No matter how much the various distributions of Linux have evolved, there’s still a vital core and a beautiful thing called STANDARDIZATION. Plus, with the flexibility to get under the metaphorical hood, whatever is not supported out-of-box can be tweaked to work properly. You can’t really say this about Windows and definitely not Mac OS.
In the end, this whole argument is just discussing politics or sports. People have their fanatical preferences and they’re going to strong-arm their points, regardless of the valid points made on the other sides. Microsoft blows, I agree, and their business ethics are disgusting but, then again, that’s Corporate America for you. The good news: as more work is sent overseas to Russia, China, and India, we, as the consumer, will have the savings passed on to us… NOT! =oX
November 27, 2006 at 8:37 pm
pft… he said “Online file storage..”. idiot says what? I’m buying it for DX10.. I don’t know about anyone else… wait did I say “buy”? well you know what I mean
November 27, 2006 at 8:40 pm
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